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I have some people that have been at the club for a couple summers.
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A lot of them started maybe when they were in high school and they're in college now, and so I promoted them to shift leaders and they can kind of help oversee and mentor.
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So I concentrate really heavily on how I mentor them so that they mentor these high school kids, the kids younger than them, the same way.
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So it's just leading by example.
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But the point I was making was the board member was saying she's like I love I can see like how they emulate emulate you when they just start to act like you, when they're just calm, cool and collected.
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I think that's a compliment I get from people.
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A lot is I make them feel like just calm and cool and collected and no matter what stress is going on, and make people feel welcome, and that's what I want them to do as well.
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Hey everyone, welcome to the private club radio show podcast, the industry's choice for news, trends, updates and conversations all in the world of private golf and country clubs.
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This is the show where we go over any and all topics related to private golf and country clubs, and today I'm chatting with Maggie Berrigan, and she's the beach club manager at Westchester Country Club.
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I didn't realize how big of a facility and operation they have there, and so I was chatting with her about her whole career, what got her to where she's at managing the beach club and what that entails, because I don't think you see beach club managers too too often.
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And what I really enjoyed was prior to our conversation here, when her and I were chatting.
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She works a lot with the youths, the youths, the youths.
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I like youths.
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Youths are better Working with youths because a lot of the kids who work down at the beach are in high school and in college and where a lot of it was.
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No, I'm fortunate to be able to work with the kids at a young age where she can mold and kind of set an example of you know how to be a good human.
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So it's instead of seeing it as a, as a annoyance or anything, she sees it and makes it a way to teach and make everybody grow.
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Let's welcome to the show Beach Club manager Maggie Berrigan.
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What a fun background.
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You've been in hospitality your entire career, right.
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Yeah, my whole life basically.
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When I was how old, was I?
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12, 13.
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I mean really young.
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My mom's best friend had a catering company and I used to like work in the kitchen, like work in the back of house, like doing prep stuff, just like she was like helping him out and I would help out and never I tried to leave a couple of times and then somehow it just sucks you right back in.
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But was there anything you learned back then that still sticks with you at all Like?
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Was there any like sayings, phrases or any like little, like tips and tricks you learned at that age, Just like working in the back of house, you know, like in in the roots, just in it?
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Is there anything you like picked up that still to this day You're like oh, that was.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's like a tip, it's just like the work ethic that I'm watching the people around me and how hard they worked and how much fun they had while they were doing it.
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I think that's what really attracted me to the industry.
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And I started working in restaurants, like when I was in high school and I worked in restaurants and um in college and I started working at a club in college private club in college and that's what you know.
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You get to see the same people every day and talk to the same people and that's what drove me to like, stay within this, this private club industry, this sector of it.
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So it's?
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I think it's just the work ethic.
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That's what, what gets me and keeps me in it.
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Where'd you grow up?
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South Carolina small town it's called Lancaster.
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It's like right below Charlotte, so it's like basically a shove over Charlotte, North Carolina.
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Gotcha.
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And then how'd you get linked up with the Augusta?
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Yeah, so with the masters, yeah, that was so much fun.
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Um, I, they recruit a lot from university South Carolina, which is where I went.
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We had a great relationship.
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They have a great relationship with our professor there.
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Her name is Kathy Gustafson.
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She's retired since now, but she, I think actually I don't know what's the name of the GM there, his name is escaping me but yeah, him, that guy, that guy I think he went to USC and a couple other people also went to USC.
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So I went down there, I interviewed a lot of my friends.
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I ended up working and I actually was like I can't remember what position I interviewed for, but they're like, hey, how about you have, like you know, experience serving tables?
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So why don't you work on the terrace?
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And I was like, yeah, sure, I didn't know what the terrace was.
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It turned out I was working on the 18th hole, for the area only reserve, only people that could dine.
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There were members and players.
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So it was pretty wild.
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It's all tables of like round tables of six and there's two managers there and they're just basically seating anybody anywhere.
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So you can have like a two you know Arnold Palmer sitting there with a friend and then you're just you know Joe Schmoe is coming to sit with him and you're just constantly moving around and it was crazy just the amount of people that would go through the doors during a four-hour lunch period.
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It was a lot of fun, though.
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Great experience.
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You're pretty involved in the yoga world too, right?
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Yes, yeah.
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I've been teaching for just my 10th year, teaching 10th, 10th year.
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Yeah, I did.
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I taught full time for took a little break from the industry in 2014, 2015.
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Part of 2016, I taught, was teaching full time down in Charleston, moved to LA for a little bit, but just wasn't I don't know One.
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You don't get paid a lot of money teaching yoga, so that was certainly something, but I miss the industry and now I still teach like part-time now and it keeps me a little bit grounded what?
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was there anything in that time period or just anything with the yoga that you've been able to bring over to the hospitality of the club world, the management side?
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Um, you know, because yoga is very fluid and movement and sometimes I feel like clubs are more rigid and not uh.
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So I think it's a funny like mesh there yeah, I would say so, um, I mean, I bring it into my.
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I say I bring it to my everyday life, my yoga.
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You know, I think the important part is yoga.
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So you know it's a physical practice, right, but there's so many different elements to yoga.
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So you want to live your life, um, off the mat, the way you live it on your mat.
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So you know it's a physical practice, right, but there's so many different elements to yoga.
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So you want to live your life off the mat the way you live it on your mat.
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So how you practice is how you live.
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And you know, in the club industry, every day you're challenged by, you know, maybe your staff, or maybe it's a member or a board member or a committee, and how can you like take a deep breath, pause before you react to something?
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I think that's probably the number one thing that I brought to my everyday career is just taking a pause tell us about the unique to me, I think it's a unique position that you're in now beach club manager.
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That sounds so much fun yeah, it's very, I mean my.
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I get to walk around in sneakers and sunglasses all day long and it's probably the favorite part of my job is getting to wear sneakers and run around.
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I mean, you know, I'm outside all day long, the members are just.
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It's a different environment, right, like even from our main club, which is, you know, there's the golf course and there's, you know, the racket sports and there's the gym there and it's just.
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It's much more formal at the main club.
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But when people come down to the beach club, you know there's no dress code whatsoever.
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Pretty much they can wear t-shirts, they can wear jeans, they can wear cutoff jeans, they can wear pretty much whatever they want, like I said.
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But they're more relaxed and they're in a better mood sometimes when they come down to the beach club and I get to just walk around.
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I get to just walk around.
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People are hanging out at the bar and I just all I do is basically just walk around.
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I check on my staff, I get to check on members.
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We have we do have like one formal restaurant at the Beach Club, so it's, you know, a little more.
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You know you can't wear jeans and you have to wear a color shirt, but for the most part it's just a casual atmosphere and we'll see anywhere I think on 4th of thousand people there, which was pretty wild Uh, lots of, lots of people running around and that was we did our, probably our highest numbers we've ever done at the club.
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So it was.
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I feel like I'm yes, I feel like I'm still recovering today from it, today's Monday.
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No four days later.
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It's a lot of people.
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That's a lot of people.
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You know, and it's very big, the beach club is 62 acres.
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So I I mean I probably walk 15 to 30,000 steps a day, just depending on how busy we are.
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So I'm always I'm just walking back and forth and like sometimes I need to get from like this part of the club to this part of club in a very short amount of time, like I need a segue, but um, and then you get stopped every five minutes or something, like just wanting to chat or like you know, oh, my chicken sandwich was burnt, or whatever it might be, or they just want to stop and chat with me for a few minutes.
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Sometimes it's so hard to get like down to where I'm going, but by the time I get to where I'm going I'm like I don't know why I'm here.
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So it's a lot of that.
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yeah you definitely need a golf cart.
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No westchester country club, so so what else is going on there?
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I forgot that there's so many aspects to it.
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Yes, three golf courses.
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Well, two 18-hole golf courses, a nine-hole executive course.
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We have the sports house, which houses a gym, an indoor pool.
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This is all the main club Squash house we have oh gosh, I'm thinking how many tennis courts.
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We have 24 tennis courts, I think.
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I think about 24.
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Six to eight paddle courts, just.
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We're almost finished with our pickleball courts.
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Those are, I think, they just paid to the line, so those would be ready, I think, within the next couple of days.
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Two ballrooms, a hotel with 40 guest rooms, residences we have 40 guest rooms and we have 40 apartments, member apartments with about 60 members living on property.
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What else do we have?
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Giant driving range golf simulators.
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Okay, what don't we?
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have.
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I know, yeah, not much.
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We don't have Padel, that's.
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I don't know that.
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People are like, oh, you got to get Padel now.
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I'm like, oh my God, another racket sport.
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But yeah, we have a lot of everything.
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That's pickleball where you can just.
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It's the whole room, right, I think it's the whole room, it's just.
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Everything is like a fair game, no matter where the ball hits.
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I'm pretty sure.
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I've seen people play it on.
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My husband showed me some videos on youtube with it.
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Um and it's.
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I think there's a pinel court here in connecticut somewhere.
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But yeah, I think it's in glass.
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You're just like the balls coming out from everywhere.
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But just it never stops yeah, never stops, yeah endless yes and then what's usually funny is it has to be awkward to play, because I've only seen it like watching from like a second level down.
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Yeah, it has to be so intimidating just to have like all these in, like a little box, all these balls flying at you.
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Oh, that's all these people just staring as well.
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Yeah, so how many employees total are at Westchester?
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Inside of the season we're just under a thousand, I would say yeah.
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So about three ish hundred of those are at the beach club, all seasonal employees, and on just about out of that, 300, I would say probably 250, or like high school, college, eights kids.
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So between the lifeguards for all of them um, I don't have to so much oversee the lifeguards, thank god.
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Um, but yeah, all food and beverage um front house, back house.
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Yeah, that falls under my, under my purview now, I, I, I, I remember when we, we, we first chatted briefly, uh, and you, I, when I, when I, we started talking about this and I was like that's a lot of students, and you stopped me and made a point and you said you actually enjoy it because you can be a learning you're, you can be in a position to, to, to teach these kids to, because they are so young and so malleable that you can train them to be good people.
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Uh, and that's why I really want to chat too, like, oh, that was such a good because so it's such a good point of view, because so many people and it is so easy to go like, oh, it's these kids these days, because, like I know, I find myself saying stuff too, but like, just that narrative and that frame of mind and that mindset I just loved.
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Can you touch more on that?
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yeah, for sure, because I feel like I've heard it so many times referred to as like I think we're the same age, like our generation, like maybe the boomers are like oh, millennials this and millennials that.
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And I don't want to ever fall victim to just looking at kids, because I was in that position too.
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We were all like 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, once 18, 19, once like just being I wouldn't say dumb kids.
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It's just you don't know like how to necessarily act in the workplace or in society, right, but no, I like I love the kids that work for me.
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I try my best to like lead by example with them.
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I even have like a board member I was talking to the day and she was commenting no-transcript making, was the board member saying she's like I love, I can see like how they emulate, emulate you, when they just start to act like you and they're just calm, cool and collected.
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I think that's a compliment I get from people a lot, as I make them feel like just calm and cool and collected and no matter what stress is going on, and make people feel welcome.
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And that's what I want them to do as well, and know how to care for people.
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And I remind myself too all the time like, hey, we're not here, this is not a hospital, we're not saving lives, we're not curing cancer here not to demean what we do for a living but at the same time like, take a breath, like it's at the end of the day, it's not all that serious, but I still want you to care about what you're doing.
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So I do want to go on the record for a second time saying you are saving lives, alfredo.
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I have the episode out with Alfredo and he said we're not saving lives and normally I would agree, but think about some people.
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Like you know, mental health is a big thing, that's true, and you don't know.
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You know people are coming in.
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They might not be, you know, in the right, but because you and the team are so nice and friendly, you know no, that's a good point.
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Or like you, you don't, like you know, and then even like an employee I was talking, you know it could be an employee could be happy to have culture, like, oh, a good place and they're happy to have, uh, but no, that that was just, but no, I, I, I totally with you with that.
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What are some so like you know, as as be, like what, what's a day in the life you know at, at the beach club of you, beach club manager, what are some of your KPIs?
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You know what?
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are your, you know when, when, when things are firing, you know, just like this past weekend, what was it?
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What was that like for you?
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I mean, I can refer to like the 4th of July was our Super Bowl, as we call it, so it's like the height of summer for us.
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We knew we were expecting it and there's no reservations necessarily for the club, so it's you don't really know what to expect.
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Black Friday.
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You're just opening the doors and just whatever rolls in.
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Yeah, I mean we all got there at like seven in the morning and the club opens at 10, but like 9.15 people are walking in.
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I'm like what are they doing here?
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And they're like they're going to reserve chairs and they're we do like the swimming race at 10 o'clock.
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So like I mean they were getting there a little bit early to do that, to get ready for that.
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But I was like, oh my God, they're all here already.
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Um, but normal day I mean like there's no normal days, I would say, but I'm, I'm, I'm coming in, um, no-transcript.
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So I usually I work out or I do yoga or something like along those lines, and then I head to work, usually just check in with my management team, make sure everybody's got what they need to get the day started.
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Sometimes we do like on the fourth we were doing a girl's station on the beach.
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So you know, having our, our maintenance team helped me set up these girls on the beach and we made some really cool banners and making sure I have two interns as well.
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So they helped me with all of our um, our branding and our signage and, you know, food signage and we had these cool surfboards we painted of a chalk paint and we can paint.
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You know details on them, upcoming events or what the station entails, um, but just making sure all those things are in place, making sure everybody showed up to work I will say it's been a great summer with.
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I've never had even last summer I've never had anybody not show up to work, which I think says a lot for for what we're, the program that we're putting out.
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You know people want to come to work, so yeah, and getting the team excited, making sure all our decorating was done for the fourth.
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Um, the day was such a blur, oh my god.
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And you know it's like a 17 hour day and I don't know.
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I can barely tell you what we did that day, but it was just like a lot of running around and making sure things are in place, making sure people showed up and you know we had a lot of meetings prior to the day and making sure people knew exactly what to expect and making sure our staff, for their first summers, knew what the day was going to entail.
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And grill stations and we had we do like a Hoffman 500.
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So there's like a swimming race.
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It's 500 meter swimming race.
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So making sure that that team you know the aquatics team handles that and we have an egg toss game the day of what other games do?
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We have Tug of war big thing.
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Everybody shows up for tug of war.
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That is fun to watch.
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Oh yeah, right on the beach.
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Um, but it's, you know, a normal day is, it's it's just me making sure people are in place and having the the how do they have what they need?
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This summer has been terrible with our refrigeration systems.
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You know, we're right on we're literally right on the water, so salt air is constantly coming in.
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So I spent a lot of time walking around checking refrigerators.
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To be honest, that's a very big part of my job is checking equipment, making sure things are working, calling our service providers to come in.
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So it's just checking things, that and being a support system for my chef.
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My chef's been there at the club for many years.
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He's been with Westchester for 30 plus years, the Beach Club about 50,.
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He's been the executive chef at the Beach Club for about 15 years.
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So I spent a lot of time with him.
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You know, coming up with new ideas.
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We do stations on the weekends.
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Yeah, how many executive chefs do you have for the club too?
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So for the club itself there's we have an executive chef and he came to the club kind of the manager team.
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We all came in together for the most part and our executive chef, kerry, came in just a little bit after we all started so he came in with us so he oversees both properties.
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We have an executive chef at the Beach Club.
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Our formal restaurant at the Beach Club has its own chef and then the main club.
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There is an executive chef at the Sports House, which is our restaurant at the main club, and then there's a banquet chef.